Subject: Re: Champagne, Letendre, Beauchamp
From: "Jayel Enterprises"
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 21:18:37 -0600

I see a LOT of my family on this website.  I descend from Louison Letendre and Marie Julie Hallett.**

Their daughter Marie Letendre married Emmanuel (Manvil) Champagne.

Their daughter Angelique Champagne (Champaigne) married David Beauchamp.  David and Angelique both died and are buried in Beauchamp, Saskatchewan.
  
Their daughter Claudia Beauchamp was my grandmother.

David Beauchamp is the son of Antoine Beauchamp and Angelique Ladouceur.

I'm pretty sure this is the same Antoine Beauchamp you have listed as born in 1824.
I have his birthdate in 1814. He appears in the 1850 census of Ramsay County, Minnesota Territory with his wife Angelique and sons David, age 10, Felix, age 8, daughter Angelique, age 6 (is this the Angelique who received scrip as
his heir?), daughter Marie, age eight months (Is this the Marie you have listed with another partner? It appears they were both born in 1850.

There were two other children that I know of who appear in the Registers of St. Joseph Roman Catholic Church in Leroy, ND. Their names were Matilda and Paul. Their parents predeceased them both, so I show both Antoine and Angelique deceased by 1883.

I also have a copy of a Land Patent issued to Antoine Beauchamp in Nov of 1855. It says he is 'of Ramsay County' so I am sure it is the same person that appears on the 1850 census.

Is there any way a person might check on the birthdate of Antoine Beauchamp to determine which is correct? Since his son David was born in 1840, I think the 1824 date might be a little late. I have been chasing Antoine for a long time and this is the closest I have come so far. If there is any avenue I could pursue to find his parents that you might know about? I would really appreciate some direction,.

I hope to hear from you,
Sincerely,
Lois Melville.


**All of the descendents of Louison Letendre and Marie Julie Hallett appear in two books written by Heather Hallett.  The are 'Children of the Rivers, Volume I' and 'Children of the Rivers, Volume II'.



Ojibwe.info wrote:
> Is there any way a person might check on the birthdate of Antoine
> Beauchamp to determine which is correct?

Dear Louis Melville,

I'm sorry not to get back to you earlier.  The birthdate I have for Antoine Beauchamp is just an approximation, included as an indication of the general time-frame in which he lived, arrived at by subtracting his age from the date of the 1860 census.  Unless a person was baptized and the baptismal records are still around, born sometime around a 'dated' historical event, or is mentioned as a young child in some other record with a clear date on it, a lot of times both Métis and Indigenous people's birthdates were not recorded in writing and at this historical distance, are near-impossible to determine with precision.

Is 'your' Antoine Beauchamp the same guy as 'my' Antoine?  It seems like he could be, eh?

I don't think that the Beauchamps were a really huge family, with an apparent family tradition of naming every third son Jean Baptiste, and naming almost everyone else after their grandfathers and uncles, so there would be five or six Antoines in the same generation (and several Antoinettes).  I know a couple of families like that, with two and sometimes several guys of the same generation with the same name ...

I've finally fnished with Halfbreed Scrip.  Chippewas of Lake Superior (1874): it's scanned, online, and indexed by name.  There are several Beauchamps in there, you might be interested - for some people it includes some interesting testimony about who's who, and where they lived:
Beauchamp, Aitkin 174
Beauchamp, Angelic 34,  113,  239,  308
Beauchamp, Antoine 113,  239,  308
Beauchamp, David 174
Beauchamp, Felix 174
Beauchamp, Maria 308
Beauchamp, Philarite 308
And, thank you very much for the information, I've put it online (or, it will be, next time I 'upload' to the website, probably later today).  I've been getting some really strong positive feedback from some visitors, as one woman wrote me early this morning:
I very kindly thank you for your time.  You may never
know how much this really means to me. For as I turn
older each year I see my heritage changing each year.
I only hope that someday I can visit my bloodline
roots, and meet some of the people who are there and
learn the history in depth, so I too can pass it on to
my children.
That's why my we did all that genealogical research, years ago ... to help people reclaim our history ... and why we put it all online, so that the information would be available to the descendants of all those people, but wow ...

Anyway, good luck with your search, and thanks again for the information.